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 cnoocy | | Subject: | Some clarification questions... | | Link: | (Link) | | Time: | 2011-09-08 02:04 am (UTC) |
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| Can you specify more exactly what you mean by the statement? e.g.:
Time in the sense of its passing, or in the sense of eternity?
Judged in the sense of "found wanting" or a more neutral "fairly determined the benefits or faults of"?
Is time judging people, things, propositions?
Is the judging over and done, or is it in the past and might possibly continue? | | (Reply) (Thread) |
borrowedphrases | | Subject: | Re: Some clarification questions... | | Link: | (Link) | | Time: | 2011-09-08 02:16 am (UTC) |
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| | Hmm. I would say Time more in the sense of eternity. Judged in the more neutral second meaning, for people specifically, and in the past/might possibly continue. | | (Reply) (Parent) (Thread) |
borrowedphrases | | Subject: | Re: Some clarification questions... | | Link: | (Link) | | Time: | 2011-09-15 08:40 am (UTC) |
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| | I think I'd like to have something literal available too. Since I'm not sure what I'll prefer using yet and I'd like to have a lot of options. So if you don't mind. :) | | (Reply) (Parent) (Thread) |
| | The traditional way of expressing this thought is the Greek “Χρόνος τὰ κρυπτὰ πάντα πρὸς τὸ φῶς ἄγει”, time brings to light all hidden things, of Menandri Sententiae 592, or the more concise “πάντ' ἀναπτύσσει χρόνος”, time reveals all, of Sophocles’ Fragment 301. In Latin, this thought is rendered by Aulus Gellius in Attic Nights, XII.11, as “Veritas temporis filia”, truth is the daughter of time. Francis Bacon echoes it as “Recte enim Veritas Temporis filia dicitur, non Authoritatis”, truth is rightly called the daughter of time, not of authority, in Novum Organum I.84. Thomas Nashe paraphrases it in English: “Veritas temporis filia, it is only time that revealeth all things.” Lastly, Erasmus cites “Tempus omnia revelat”, time reveals all things, as Adagia II.iv.17. | | (Reply) (Thread) |
| | Thank you so much for such a detailed reply! It's extremely helpful. :) | | (Reply) (Parent) (Thread) |
| My pleasure. It occurs to me that another sense of judging is captured by Ovid in Metamorphoses XV.234-236:Tempus edax rerum, tuque, invidiosa vetustas,
omnia destruitis, vitiataque dentibus aevi
paulatim lenta consumitis omnia morte. As rendered by Arthur Golding in 1567:Thou tyme the eater up of things, and age of spyghtfull teene,
Destroy all things. And when that long continuance hath them bit,
You leysurely by lingring death consume them every whit. “Tempus edax rerum” is proverbial. See e.g. the slogan “le temps détruit tout” at the end of the movie Irreversible by Gaspar Noé. | | (Reply) (Parent) (Thread) |
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