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Subject:Spes
Time:02:01 am
Hi!

I just want to start of by saying I don't know Latin at all.

The thing is, I've been wanting a tattoo that simply says Hope for a long time, but I don't want it in English, and in Norwegian (my language) it looks silly. I've been looking at Greek, Italian, Japanese, Arabic and so on, but none of those languages really do it for me. I've always liked Latin, and I do plan on learning it some day, but to you who do know the language, would a tattoo, placed in the neck, that simply says Spes look weird to you? I don't know enough to know if it needs to be in context with something else to really mean Hope, or if it can stand alone, and the last I'd want is to learn the language and then realize that darn, I was an idiot for getting such a silly thing inked into my skin!

I appreciate any input, thanks! :)

-Kristina

(Edited for misspelling.)
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ioanna_ioannina
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Time:2010-08-05 12:18 am (UTC)
As far as I know, yes, it means "hope" in the widest possible sense and yes, it can stand alone. It is even part of this trio: fides, spes et caritas = faith, hope and love.
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kissas_fate
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Time:2010-08-05 12:48 am (UTC)
Thanks! And I didn't know about "fides, spes et caritas", thanks for enlightening me!
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kissas_fate
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Time:2010-08-05 12:47 am (UTC)
Exactly why Greek fell short with me! That, and pis(s)/pisse means to pee/pees in Norwegian. Haha.
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ukelele
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Time:2010-08-05 10:36 am (UTC)
Means it in English, too. ("Pee" is standard; "piss" is more slangy/vulgar.)
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fallen_scholar
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Time:2010-08-05 12:36 am (UTC)
Nope, not weird, and yes, it works on its own.

Oddly, someone else once 'consulted' me on this very same tattoo.

The only problem I can think of is that it (spes) is not a very pretty word, specifically to someone who only knows English.

Edited at 2010-08-05 12:37 am (UTC)
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kissas_fate
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Time:2010-08-05 12:57 am (UTC)
Thanks for helping!

I didn't think spes was all that the first time I saw/heard it either, but oddly enough it's grown a lot on me. I'm not one to do something like get a tattoo on impulse, I think about it for a LONG time and if I still like it, then I get it. Most of the time my ideas get discarded because I tire of them, but not with spes. Now I wonder though, is it similar to anything in the English language? I try to think if it does, but nothing comes to mind.
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goulo
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Time:2010-08-05 10:00 am (UTC)
Off the top of my head:

It's a bit similar to "spies" and "specs" and "space" and "spays" and (much rarer) "spaes".

Also "speso" was a proposed international monetary unit a century ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesmilo

And SPES is a fairly common abbreviation, e.g. see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spes_%28disambiguation%29
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goulo
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Time:2010-08-06 03:37 am (UTC)
Indeed it seems inevitable. But it's probably wise to make sure that none of the obviously similar words will be misleading or problematic. E.g. the case of ILVTOFU. :)
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myrrhdusa
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Time:2010-08-06 06:29 pm (UTC)
I understand the appeal of just one word, but Latin always seems to look and feel better to me in tattoo form as a phrase. One you might consider is: Dum spiro, spero.. It means, While I breathe, I hope. It is usually attributed to Cicero, and has the common attraction of the Latin language of similar sounding words grouped together, in this case hope(spes)and breath(spiro). This use of breath is also one of a spiritual/soul sort of meaning, and would lend itself well to a tattoo.

Just a thought from a Latin/Roman geek. :-)
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Liza Du
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Time:2010-12-27 01:21 am (UTC)
I think you should learn first Italian language.
-italian basics (http://www.learningitaliantips.com/)
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