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Subject:Vergil Repeats Himself
Time:10:46 am
1.) Eclogues 4.48-52:

Adgredere o magnos (aderit iam tempus) honores,
cara deum suboles, magnum Iovis incrementum!
Aspice convexo nutantem pondere mundum,
terrasque tractusque maris caelumque profundum;
aspice, venturo laetentur ut omnia saeclo!

2.) Georgics 4.219-227:

His quidam signis atque haec exempla secuti
esse apibus partem divinae mentis et haustus
aetherios dixere; deum namque ire per omnes
terrasque tractusque maris caelumque profundum.
Hinc pecudes, armenta, viros, genus omne ferarum,
quemque sibi tenues nascentem arcessere vitas;
scilicet huc reddi deinde ac resoluta referri
omnia nec morti esse locum, sed viva volare
sideris in numerum atque alto succedere caelo.

I'm sure he did this more often than just once. Is there a list of all his self-quotes? (Or do you happen to know other examples?)

EDIT: Apparently there's an old (1881) Hermes article by E. Albrecht "Wiederholte Verse und Verstheile bei Vergil". I'll try to find that.
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sollersuk
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Time:2013-06-25 03:27 pm (UTC)
I'd always assumed it was a poetic-diction type thing, like the lines that recur in different Border Ballads - both when learning and composing, one thinks in chunks, and if a line works well in one ballad, it's likely to crop up in another. Not unlike extended stock epithets.
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leopold_paula_b
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Time:2013-06-25 06:46 pm (UTC)
I know that Homer does this a lot in the old oral poetry tradition. But refined, post-Hellenistic Virgil was another thing, I thought. Now, after seeing Albrecht's list, I'm surprised how often Virgil does this. I haven't actually counted the occurences and calculated the ratio, but by the first glance it could be maybe one or two repetitions in every hundred verses.
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ioanna_ioannina
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Time:2013-06-25 09:34 pm (UTC)
AFAIK Virgil tried to emulate Homer, and wasn't alone, even in Hellenistic (or post-Hellenistic, for a Roman) era.
But still, neither I did know the repetitions happen, and so often. Yay for him! What Homer does because of pre-made hereditary parts, Virgil does, because Homer did (maybe?), and has to do artificially. I'd be interested not only in the number of the repetitions, but if they are of the same kind as in Homer - parts that can be inserted in any heroical poem, because they tend to be quite the same (like "when the sun is rising, the armies start to..." etc. etc. :-) ). If so, then twice yay for Virgil.
Thank you very much for this question!
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