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Subject:Clouds occur
Time:06:52 pm
Hi everyone! (waves as Latinately as she knows how)

I have a query about the motto on the coat of arms of the Earls of St Germans (that's in Cornwall). About half the Google entries cite it as 'Occurunt nubes'; the other half say 'Occurrent nubes'.

I can remember just about enough Latin to know that that means "Clouds occur [figuratively, "Shit happens"] but not enough to know whether one of those spellings is just wrong, or if one is the present and one the future tense. Can anyone tell me?
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iiiskaaa
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Time:2011-11-20 07:18 pm (UTC)
I think occurrunt nubes would mean "clouds appear" while occurrent nubes would mean "clouds will appear."
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syntinen_laulu
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Time:2011-11-22 01:59 pm (UTC)
Thanks. Makes sense - a couple of hundred years ago Latin was so basic to everyday (boys') schooling that it seemed unlikely that a simple misspelling would gain currency. But people not being sure, or not agreeing, whether the present or future tense was meant seems entirely plausible.
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simon_stylites
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Time:2011-11-21 03:17 pm (UTC)
Yes, one's present and one's future. A bit of googling suggests it's a later motto, and it's unclear which is more correct. But there's not much of a difference between "shit happens" and "shit'll happen", I suppose!
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syntinen_laulu
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Time:2011-11-22 02:00 pm (UTC)
Quite, which would make it all the easier for there to be some confusion which to use. Thanks!
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